I posted about 20 or so pics having to do with life on Mars in the disclose tv photos section.Just look for jlehane3 , or search Jerry Lehane III in google to hunt me down.ATS board is where I post most often.I designed the first draft original drawings and concepts for Mars rovers 1987 and sent them to Gene Roddenberry to relay to Nasa as part of a package of ghostwriting FREE for Star Trek. I’ll gladly talk about contributing(all in 1 shot spring 1987) to Trek and JPL Nasa.There’s much more to the story.I first saw a humanoid face from the Mars spirit and Op pics in spring 2004. Mars people generally look like us and wear clothes.Mars animals are diverse and visit the rovers (4 years) in groups of completely mixed species enthusiastically and like getting their pics taken apparently.The live ones look right at the camera,probably attracted by noise,movement,focusing beam. jpl123@inbox.com